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So Long, Firefox

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Yes, Mozilla’s actions never seem to quite match its stated purpose. Not-for-profits often face difficult decisions over funding, but where does all the Mozilla money actually go?

Yet – what’s the realistic alternative to using Firefox?

Original article by Poorchop. Published 13/10/21.

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You were right on the money seven years ago. At the time, I was still trying to look past Mozilla’s poor decisions and I was hopeful about Firefox OS. My first smartphone ran Firefox OS and the existence of an open alternative to iOS and Android is what finally got me to stop clinging to feature phones. I kept trying to look for workarounds and alternative solutions as they chipped away at Firefox, removing useful features while adding ones that nobody wanted but there’s no good reason to defend Mozilla’s actions at this point.

I had never read the Mozilla Manifesto previously but you’re right that principle 9 pretty much undermines all of the others. It’s almost as laughable as their CEO claiming that not having a multi-million dollar income is unfair to her family while hundreds of skilled engineers are fired.

Yet – what’s the realistic alternative to using Firefox?

This is why I’ll begrudgingly continue to use it but Firefox 93 is finally making me more receptive to Gopher as a first-class publishing platform. Browsers like Otter, surf, Dillo, Lynx, and Nyxt are good for certain use cases but not all of them will work with banking or e-commerce sites for example. Moreover, the web has become nearly unusable without uBlock Origin. The fact that it’s nearly impossible for new players to enter the game highlights the broader issues with the Web in general, which goes beyond Mozilla’s terrible decisions.



The web needs a big, visible, independent, not-for-profit browser, and it’s almost impossible to imagine a new one emerging – Firefox’s roots go way back, I think, to Netscape Navigator. (As an aside, I can remember using Phoenix v 0.4, which might well have been in the last millenium!)

It’s depressing enough that its market share continues to plummet. I actually really like it as a browser and, like you say, seeing the web without uBlock Origin is terrifying. I even like Pocket (although I get your point about it being foisted on users).

What’ll happen to Firefox? This article is great on what Mozilla is and its future:

In the end it’s possible and perhaps most likely that the Mozilla Corporation will continue down its present path, trying a variety of new business opportunities without any of them being a runaway success, drawing upon a steadily declining revenue stream, and slowly contracting the organization over time. In ten years it’s possible that the Mozilla Corporation may be just a memory, with the Mozilla Foundation surviving as a modestly-funded advocacy organization.

In other words, those corporate mega salaries will no longer be affordable.


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So Long, Firefox by Poorchop:

With the release of Firefox 93, Mozilla makes no attempt to hide the fact that they have fully embraced the spyware business model. Ads are now injected directly into the search bar and a user’s keystrokes are sent to Mozilla’s servers.

[via This day’s portion@leonp]

A few years back when Mozilla acquired Pocket, I immediately researched to found out how I could disable it. It’s interesting how quickly Mozilla implemented ads and tracking cookies (for advertising) after that buy. I never trusted Mozilla much after that occurred though I continued and still continue to use Firefox as an integral part of my web-related workflow. As Pocket states:

We use cookies to remember your account settings, and for analytics. Some of our ad partners use cookies on Pocket Explore pages, and if you accept these advertising cookies, your ads may be more personalized on other websites.

Mozilla’s hypocrisy is stunning! And that was even before this Firefox Suggest thing came around. When I first learned of Suggest, I immediately went to Settings to make sure I was not opting in to the Contextual Suggestions. But I’m still pissed. And after seeing what Poorchop shared about the CEO’s salary I’m livid. What an insult to people who commit to using Firefox and, in some cases, making donations to Mozilla!

But like Poorchop and Leon, I’ll continue using Firefox begrudgingly even though they’ve now officially made it to my shitlist (which is getting a bit long by now). 😎